主持人:
但是您觉得您自己本身不在其中,能真正了解真正炒股人的痛苦和喜悦吗?
郎咸平:
因为我太了解股市了,我何必像大家一样炒个十年又输钱,我干脆不如不炒呢,对不对?
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好,杰姆。
罗杰斯:
that is a wonderful question. The last question you asked professor is a brilliant question. I was going to ask myself. I am not a scholar, I will tell you. I would rather make money than yelling at what I think is happening in the market and most of the time scholars are wrong. So one of the things you have to understand about being an investor , an individual investor or otherwise is do you have the temperament for being an investor? One of the things I learned early as I lost money and made mistakes is that I had to figure out my own self. You have to learn about yourself. The professor at least has learnt about himself. He knows he does not know how to make money. He has learned that, he has just said he did. so you have to learn that by yourself if you don't have the temperament for being an investor, you should not be an investor, some people are great at building companies or factories I could not do that in a minute. I was hopeless at it. but I do have some time and temperament to be an investor, but if you don't have the temperament to be an investor, go be a singer ,or a football player , or a fashion designer , or a TV hostess, or a professor, do sth else. That’s the first thing you 've got to learn about yourself. Now I just want to ask the professor one other question. Who makes the money in Asia? You keep saying that in America, 80 % of the people don't do as well as the average. In Asia they don't either. The study shows the same thing. professionals investors do not make money in your market than any more than Europe and America,
你刚才问的这个问题太好了。我也想这样问他。我不是学者,我赚钱靠的是对市场的判断,大多数时候学者的观点是错误的。不管你是散户还是机构投资者,你必须清楚自己的性格是否适合做投资者。我在早年犯错误赔钱时就懂得必须了解你自己。教授自己已经有了自知之明,他说过他不知道如何赚钱。他已经这样说过了。所以你必须了解你自己。如果你的性格不适合做投资者,最好还是改行,有些人办公司或者工厂很有头脑,我这方面没天份。但是我却能够成为一名成功的投资者。如果你不适合做投资者,那就该行当歌星或者是足球运动员、服装设计师、电视主持人什么的。这是你首先应该了解的。现在我想问教授一个问题,在亚洲谁赚钱了?你总是强调说在美国,80%的投资者业绩在平均线以下,那么亚洲同样如此。调查结果是一样的。机构投资者在亚洲和在欧洲或者北美一样不赚钱。
郎:那谁赚钱,我跟你讲,而且我也跟你讲我的出处在哪里,我讲这句话,是在2000年世界银行的研究报告上写的,谁赚钱了在亚洲?大股东,机构投资人,中小股民都是赔钱的,这就是结果,而且这是无庸辩驳的结论,
主持人:
郎先生和杰姆两个人同时都对自己所从事的行业,充满了激情和热爱,这个是我们值得敬佩的对吧,我们还是掌声鼓励一下。满意吗?他的答案?
罗杰斯:
scholars and professors are always saying that people cannot make money in the market.
学者和教授总是说人们在市场上赚不了钱
郎咸平:
大股东他会赚钱,我没说他不能赚钱,大股东、机构投资人在亚洲他会赚钱。
罗杰斯:
ok ,that's what I said ,professors are always saying that people cannot make money in the market. Whoever these institutions are I don't know about it. I don't that in American Europe and Japan the biggest institutions have lost their shirts in the market in the last few years. You think the World Bank makes money? You think the IMF makes money? please, and as for your question about my performance. You are right, you don't have any numbers. But I will say to you, and this is probably knowledge, I haven't had a job since 1980, this is 2004. Somehow or other I still pay my bill, somehow or other I’ve taken two trips around the world. So if you hear that I’ve taken a job, you know something went wrong . you don't need my performance figures, but if you said here oh my god, poor Jim Rogers took a job, then I promised you I did sth wrong, and you will be the first to know.
这就是我说的。教授总是说大部分人在市场上赚不了钱。这些机构投资者到底是谁呢?我不知道。我知道在美国欧洲和日本过去几年大的机构投资者都赔得倾家荡产。你认为世界银行赚钱吗?你认为国际货币基金组织赚钱吗?至于我本人,也许你拿不出什么数字,但是我可以告诉你,别人可能也知道,我从1980年开始就不再受雇于别人,现在是2004年。然而我仍然付得起帐,我也做了两次环球旅行。如果你听到说我哪天开始去上班了,你就知道我出事。你无需看我的业绩数字,但是如果有一天,可怜的吉姆?罗杰斯去上班了,你可以告诉你,那肯定是我出什么事了,到时我一定第一个告诉你.
郎咸平:
你刚才说的一句话,你认为机构投资人是没有赚钱的,这个没有赚钱,那个没有赚钱,我根本就不同意,机构投资人不赚钱,谁能赚钱呢?我所谓大部分人赔钱,是以人数来讲,大部分中小股民是赔钱的,这是亚洲的一个现实。